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utzworld
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posted 10-15-2002 09:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for utzworld   Click Here to Email utzworld     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sanaa kept asking folks that in "Brown Sugar." Now I'm asking y'all. I know that not everyone loves hip-hop...let alone LIKES it...but for those who do, this'll make for a good discussion.

Feel free to comment on your favorite albums, artists, verses of songs, breakdance moves, etc.

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truheart
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posted 10-15-2002 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for truheart   Click Here to Email truheart     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've always been a hip hop head and always will. I really started loving hip hop when I heard "The Message", that was the first song that hit me hard. I'm from chicago and there used to be a college radio station called WNUR, that would play uncut hip hop from 10pm until 2am. I would turn it on when I was supposed to be asleep and load a tape into the Boom Box and tape all the new music I could get on a 60 min tape. I remember how my mom would tell me it was just a fad that would pass in a couple of years, well here I am 20 years later and the "fad" still lives. Guess mom wasn't right about everything.

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bayzoo
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posted 10-15-2002 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bayzoo   Click Here to Email bayzoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't remember the very first time I heard a hip-hop track, but I my earliest memories would probably start around 1985, when I heard L.L.'s "I can't live without my radio." I loved the beat, the lyrics and the "hardness" of it all!
But growing up in the late 80s, I fondly remember sitting at the back of the bus , on my way to high school, with my fat-ass headphones firmly attached to my ears, as my cassette player walkman (yes, I said cassette, not CD) blasted away to the likes of P.E.'s "Don't Believe The Hype," and "Black Steel In The Hour Of Chaos," both off the "It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back" LP. Man, I loved that LP. It's still one of my all-time favorites today.
I definitely can't forget KRS-One and BDP doing their thing on "By All Means Necessary", with "My Philosophy," ("So, you're a philosopher? Yes (scratch), Yes (scratch), Yes, Yes (scratch, scratch, scratch)") and "I'm Still #1" etc, etc, etc...
Then there was EPMD - Eric and Parish Making Dollars ("You Got's To Chill," and "Jane"); can't forget Eric B. And Rakim ("I Ain't No Joke"), Slick Rick ("Treat Her Like A Prostitute," "Children's Story," "The Moment I Feared" -> "Ay! Yo! what the F***'s going on here? What'you doin' with my girl homeboy? I know y'all ain't just finish F******; Oh, I just know y'all ain't just finish f******!) - this was probably one of the few albums that I could listen to in its entirety and not skip or fast-forward any track!
There were a few others - Big Daddy Kane ("Young, Gifted and Black," "Mortal Kombat"), Mc Lyte ("Cha Cha Cha," "Cappucino"), Marley Marl's "Symphony" featuring the likes of Kane, Master Ace, and Kool G Rap, the kings of the Daisy Age - De La Soul ("3 Feet High and Rising," and "De La Soul is Dead."), and A Tribe Called Quest ("I Left my wallet in El Segundo," off the "People's Instinctive Travels and the Paths of Rhythm" album - another one of my all-time favorite albums), Gang Starr, and Pete Rock & C.L. Smooth.
And how could I forget N.W.A.!!!! "F*** The Police."
There are a others that escape me at the moment... more later...

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utzworld
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posted 10-15-2002 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for utzworld   Click Here to Email utzworld     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bayzoo:
I can't remember the very first time I heard a hip-hop track, but I my earliest memories would probably start around 1985, when I heard L.L.'s "I can't live without my radio." I loved the beat, the lyrics and the "hardness" of it all!

"LL Cool J is HARD as HELL!!" Rock The Bells is a classic. His unprecedented 10th album is out today.

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fat-ass headphones firmly attached to my ears, as my cassette player walkman (yes, I said cassette, not CD) blasted away to the likes of P.E.'s "Don't Believe The Hype," and "Black Steel In The Hour Of Chaos," both off the "It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back" LP. Man, I loved that LP. It's still one of my all-time favorites today.

I first heard Chuck and Flav in 1987 when "Rebel Without A Pause" and "Bring The Noise" got nonstop airplay on the classic LA hip-hop station AM 1580 KDAY. Everybody fell in love with them after that song hit.

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Then there was EPMD - Eric and Parish Making Dollars ("You Got's To Chill," and "Jane"); can't forget Eric B. And Rakim ("I Ain't No Joke"), Slick Rick ("Treat Her Like A Prostitute," "Children's Story," ]

I gotta go find EPMD's first album "Strictly Business." That's album's an old school party by itself!

"Eric B as President" and "Check Out My Melody" both got nonstop airplay on KDAY in the summer of 87. The "Paid In Full" is a masterpiece.

Don't ask me why, but I didn't buy "The Great Adventures of Slick Rick" album. That's one of the all time blunders I ever made.

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There were a few others - Big Daddy Kane ("Young, Gifted and Black," "Mortal Kombat"), Mc Lyte ("Cha Cha Cha," "Cappucino"), Marley Marl's "Symphony" featuring the likes of Kane, Master Ace, and Kool G Rap, the kings of the Daisy Age - De La Soul ("3 Feet High and Rising," and "De La Soul is Dead."), and A Tribe Called Quest ("I Left my wallet in El Segundo," off the "People's Instinctive Travels and the Paths of Rhythm" album - another one of my all-time favorite albums), Gang Starr, and Pete Rock & C.L. Smooth.
And how could I forget N.W.A.!!!! "F*** The Police."
There are a others that escape me at the moment... more later...

Big Daddy Kane started getting his airplay in 87-88 with "RAW" and "Ain't No Half-Steppin"...not to mention Biz Markie did the second verse of "The Vapors" all about him.

I was shocked to find out MC Lyte was a girl cause her first jam "10 Percent Dis" sounded like a 12 year old boy did the rapping.

I gotta find "The Symphony" on CD...that's one of the great posse cuts of all time. Those piano notes are hypnotizing. And the video was hilarious. "Buddy" by De La, Tribe, Jungle Brothers, Queen Latifah and Monie Love is the other great posse record.

De La's "Me Myself & I" tripped us out cause we'd never seen hip-hop shown that way. But I'll be darned if everybody didn't start cutting their hair like them.

"Bonita Applebum" by Tribe is another classic. I turn that up whenever I hear it.

And my favorite hip-hop song: "T.R.O.Y. (They Reminisce Over You) by Pete Rock and CL Smooth. Makes me wanna cry everytime I hear it.

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The Diva
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posted 10-15-2002 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Diva   Click Here to Email The Diva     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by utzworld:
Sanaa kept asking folks that in "Brown Sugar." Now I'm asking y'all. I know that not everyone loves hip-hop...let alone LIKES it...but for those who do, this'll make for a good discussion.

Feel free to comment on your favorite albums, artists, verses of songs, breakdance moves, etc.


Sugar Hill Gang. Afikka Bambaata. EPMD. Whodini. Grand Master Flash. Run DMC.
That took me from '79 til about '84
Then I went whacky over Prince. After I got over Prince I went back to hip hop. Kool Moe Dee (even my mom was jammin him). Doug E. Fresh. Slick Rick. Beastie Boys. L.L.Cool J. Salt-N-Pepa. Kid-n-Play. (oddly, I never got into M.C.Lyte)Queen Latifah. 3rd Base. DeLaSoul. Brand Numbian (Concerto in X Minor is *still* tight)

I also agree with your take on Hip-hop and Neo Soul.

Special shout out to Doggy Style and Death Certificate - the only west coast rap that I like.

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truheart
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posted 10-16-2002 04:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for truheart   Click Here to Email truheart     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey utz, you can get The Symphony easily onine, that was one of my favorite cuts of all time. BDK was one of myfavorites and I still listen to it when the mood hits me. I have a younger cousin, who is like my little brother, that I'm always trying to play Eric B & Rakim(the best rapper of all time)for. When I was younger I would always rewind Rakims' lyrics over and over again so I could here every last word. BDP was also a favorite, those years when BDP, Rakim, NWA, Public Enemy, The Geto Boys, Big Daddy Kane, EPMD, and too many others to name were doing there thang. It was a time when Ice-T actually could rap. I loved rap, hip hop and whatever you wanted to call it then. Unlike some, I still do. It may have changed and evolved, but it's still all good to me(some of it at least). Nas, Jay-Z, Mos Def(when he actually raps instead of acts), Ludacris, Meth, Redman and a few others are still doing the artform the way it was meant to be done. I love all types of music, but if you loved hip hop back in the day you should still feel it now.

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truheart
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posted 10-16-2002 04:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for truheart   Click Here to Email truheart     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I almost forgot Biggie & Pac. These were 2 of the best rappers aroundand the carried hip hop and rap until there tragic end. No matter what you think of them personally, if you really like rap I know you like at least one rap by one of them.

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bayzoo
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posted 10-16-2002 09:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bayzoo   Click Here to Email bayzoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by truheart:
I loved rap, hip hop and whatever you wanted to call it then. Unlike some, I still do. It may have changed and evolved, but it's still all good to me(some of it at least)... I love all types of music, but if you loved hip hop back in the day you should still feel it now.

I'm definitely not feeling hip-hop music of today. For whatever reason, I'm not moved by most of what I hear. A lot of these cats today actually kinda turn me off when I see and hear them. Maybe as one gets older, tastes change, so what one got off on years prior, won't necessarily have the same effect in the present. But I still have a lot of love for the old school stuff I mentioned above (hey, that rhymes... how fitting). I never get tired of listening to those guys - probably because I grew up with them.
Most of my hip-hop CD collection is made up of pre-1992 albums. The last time I actually went out and bought a CD by a hip-hop artist was a couple of years ago, when I picked up Common's "Like Water For Chocolate," which I'm completely into, even 2 years later.
A lot of these guys today like Ludacris, the whole dirty south movement, Ja Rule, Nelly, P Diddy's family, Mystical, Trick Daddy and Trina, etc, etc, etc... none of them interests me, and as I said, some of them actually turn me off!
To quote Common from his last LP, "... now, some of that shit y'all pop to it, I ain't relating; if I don't like, I don't like it, that don't mean that am hatin'"
I can still get into L.L. (who just released his 10th LP), Nas, Dre, even Method Man and a little Jay-Z, but it's probably because these guys have been around for quite awhile, and some of them were even around in the 80s and early 90s.
Again, tastes change as one grows older, and my CD collection today is predominantly old school jazz (not the diluted, poppy stuff that seems to get more airplay), classical, neo-soul artists, old school hip-hop, and some alternative. Keep in mind that, for me, old school hip-hop falls in the '85 - '90 period, because that's when I was just starting to get out of the single digit age bracket, and heading towards the formulative teenage years, and those are the years that I remember!

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ginadawn
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posted 10-18-2002 05:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ginadawn   Click Here to Email ginadawn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by utzworld:

Feel free to comment on your favorite albums, artists, verses of songs, breakdance moves, etc.[/B]


I remember loving The Sugar Hill Gang's "Rapper's Delight," but when "The Message" came out in the summer of '82, I *felt* that song and was hooked on rap. Did anyone go to the Fresh Fest? It was one of the first major hip hop tours--Run DMC, Whodini, The Fat Boys, UTFO, LL Cool J...it seems as if EVERYBODY performed at that show!

Favorite Artists/Songs

Sugar Hill Gang: 8th Wonder; Apache
Afrika Bambaataa: Planet Rock
Grand Master Flash: The Message; Girl's Love the Way He Spins
UTFO: Roxanne, Roxanne,;You Cold Wanna Be With Me
Whodini: The Freaks Come Out At Night; Friends
BDP: Crimminal Minded, My Philosophy
Eric B and Rakim: My Melody, Paid In Full
LL Cool J: I Can' Live Without My Radio
MC Lyte: Paper Thin
Sweet T: I Got The Feelin'
World Famous Supreme Team: Hey DJ
Skinny Boys: Human Jock Box
Fresh 3 MC's: F.R.E.S.H.
Mantonix: Scream
Kid & Play: Gettin' Funky (kick step!)
Kool Moe D: How Ya Like Me Now
Doug E. Fresh/Slick Rick: The Show; La-Di-Da-Di

Ohmigoodness...I could go on and on. Haven't seen Brown Sugar yet, but plan to go Sunday. Even with the conflicting reviews, its seems that it will be worthwhile for the trip down memory lane.

Something I haven't seen mentioned just yet is skating. I'm from Louisville, KY, and rap and the skating rink went hand and hand!

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MisbgsBlaze
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posted 10-19-2002 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MisbgsBlaze   Click Here to Email MisbgsBlaze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow! I remember hearing all these songs in the last couple of years. Unfortunately I wasn't old enough to understand their importance when they first came out. I do know however, that I fell in love with HIP HOP a long while ago. It was the first time I heard Common's I used to love H.E.R. Upon first listening the song meant little more than ear candy with a nice beat and a cute red boy spittin'. My how things have changed. I've read interviews and other commentary about hte song and I realized that this song said much more than I gave it credit for. I fell in love with HIP HOP and still love (and hate) it for the same reason: HIP HOP gives a voice to the otherwise unheard. Daily that voice resonates loudly and clearly. How artists choose to use that voice? Well that's a whole 'nother topic all together...

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Dnice
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posted 10-22-2002 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dnice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ginadawn:
I remember loving The Sugar Hill Gang's "Rapper's Delight," but when "The Message" came out in the summer of '82, I *felt* that song and was hooked on rap. Did anyone go to the Fresh Fest?

:::waving hand in the air like I just don't care:::

I LOVED the Fresh Fest. Remember when wearing neon was all the rage? I remember wearing my white Chic jeans, neon splashed shirt and double belt to one Fresh Fest.

Okay, my faves:

Absolute fave of all time: Paid and Full, Eric B and Rakim. Glad to hear Rakim with Truth Hurts (and the CD from a few years back, The 18th Letter--I think). He's still got it.

Rapper's Delight
Run DMC
Fat Boys
LL (Radio, Rock the Bells, Dear Yvette)
Doug E. Fresh "The Show"
De La Soul
Beasties

Stealing from Gina's list:

Sugar Hill Gang: Apache
Afrika Bambaataa: Planet Rock
UTFO: Roxanne, Roxanne; You Cold Wanna Be With Me
Whodini: The Freaks Come Out At Night; Friends; and don't forget: Five Minutes of Funk
My husband's all-time fave--> BDP: Crimminal Minded, My Philosophy
Kool Moe D: How Ya Like Me Now; AND Wild Wild West
Doug E. Fresh/Slick Rick: The Show; La-Di-Da-Di

Deesha, reminisce-reminiscing

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QKnown
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posted 11-14-2002 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for QKnown   Click Here to Email QKnown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Favorite ol school jams:

"Rapper's Delight"-Sugarhill
"Planet Rock"-Bambatta
"The Message"-Flash
"King of Rock/Sucka MCs/Its like that/You be illin/Beats to the rhyme/Mary Mary"-RUN DMC
"Dream Team is in the House"-L.A. Dream Team
"The Show"-Slick Rick/Doug E.
"Freaks come out"-Whodini
"Eric B is President/Follow the Leader"-Rakim
"PSK..WHat does it mean?"-Schooly D
"I'm your pusher/Girls LGBNAF/You played yourself"-Ice T
"Posse on broadway"-Sir Mixalot
"Paul Revere"-Beasties
"Aint no half steppin"-BDK
"Keep Risin'"-Doug E.
"Push it/Tramp"-Salt n pepa
"Goin back to Cali"-LL
"Pump it up"-Hammer
"U cold wanna be w/ me"-UTFO
"Yeah Yeah Yeah/Get Loose"-Oaktown 357
"Dont fight the feelin/Cusswords"-Too Short
"Supersonic"-JJ Fad
"Rebel without a Pause"-PE
"Dopeman"-NWA
"So whatcha sayin"-EPMD
"Eazier said than done/We Want Eazy"-Eazy E
"We got our own thang"-Heavy D
"Self-Destruction"-Stop the Violence
"Hey Young World"-Slick Rick
"Call me D-Nice"-D Nice
"Onleee you"-Kwame
"Humpty Dance/Freaks of the Industry"-Digital Underground
"Gangster of Love"-Geto Boys

BTW, my 3BC copy came in the mail last night!Autographed and everything!!
MUCH love to y'all!

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bams
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posted 11-15-2002 08:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bams   Click Here to Email bams     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by QKnown:

BTW, my 3BC copy came in the mail last night!Autographed and everything!!
MUCH love to y'all!

Cool biz. Spread the word...

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