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utzworld
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posted 09-13-2002 09:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for utzworld   Click Here to Email utzworld     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The following was originally posted by Billy Hoyle in "Entertainment Related" but was moved here in case anyone responds with mass spoilerism after seeing the flick:

I hope to check it out this weekend. I wasn't too enthused based on the trailer, but the initial reviews have been raves. A.O. Scott of the times compared the feeling it gave him to having a "home-cooked meal."
And Roger Ebert has this to say:

"There is a kind of music to [the characters'] conversations, now a lullaby, now a march, now a requiem, now hip-hop, and they play with one another like members of an orchestra. The movie's so good to listen to, it would even work as an audio book."

Damn. Guess he liked it.


[This message has been edited by utzworld (edited 09-13-2002).]

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daughter
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posted 09-15-2002 12:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for daughter   Click Here to Email daughter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry to disagree, but I really disliked this film...
The premise was good, but the actual film turned me off, because of too many heavy-handed-after-school-style-"message"-driven moments, and most importantly it just was not funny, for me. I think I chuckled once.
And I'm just too tired of the "ghetto-black comedies".
Can we get an intelligent film with a message that's laid down with a little more subtlty, please?

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mmmgrrrl
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posted 09-15-2002 10:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mmmgrrrl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thoroughly enjoyed Barbershop and am recommending it to all my friends and family.
It is well-written and acted by a beautful cast. And talk about FUNNNNNNNNNNNNY! For me it provided a dash of nostalgia for a simple movie about simple people interwoven with truths that are many times lacking in the glossy, over-acted, one-dimensional, over-marketed American film today.
I'm an avid movie-goer to all types of films; usually without much expectation for anything special. Barbershop was a
refreshing, heart-warming surprise.

And for those of you who care about BoxOffice numbers, looks like $21 Million for the opening weekend, coming in #1 ...

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Jason Alley
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posted 09-15-2002 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jason Alley   Click Here to Email Jason Alley     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dug it too. There were a few dry spells and the subplot about the ATM thieves is annoying and unnecessary, but on the whole it's a nice movie.
Loved Cube and Cedric most of all.

** 1/2 (out of 4)

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utzworld
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posted 09-17-2002 07:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for utzworld   Click Here to Email utzworld     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It was really refreshing to see Ice Cube play a GROWN ASS MAN instead of the same thing he always plays. I think I liked that the most about this flick.

The script meandered a bit too much, but overall I dug the flick.

And is it me, or did Sean Patrick Thomas's character remind me of a certain individual who hangs out in VV and loves spouting random trivia tidbits that none of us care about???

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truheart
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posted 09-20-2002 11:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for truheart   Click Here to Email truheart     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This was a very good movie, just when I was starting to lose faith in black movies. It was starting to seem like all recent black movies revolved around weddings! This was a breath of fresh air for me. I enjoyed this movie completely and Cedric The Entertainer was great. It's about time someone made a movie that spoke to all types of black folks in different ways.

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truheart
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posted 09-20-2002 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for truheart   Click Here to Email truheart     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And BTW, Daughter I don't really see how you can give this movie a generic"ghetto-black comedy" label. This movie was meant for everyone, young and old to take from it what they can. Black folks have our own kind of humor, and I for one embrace that fact. I don't hear anyone calling a Jim Carrey or Adam Sandler movie a White-Trash comedy, so why label black comedy like that?

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kandyman1028
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posted 09-20-2002 09:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kandyman1028   Click Here to Email kandyman1028     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good movie. The touchy-feely moments were a little overdone, but heartwarming nonetheless, and the political incorrectness was refreshing. Cedric the Entertainer in particular was priceless, I really felt he stole the show. Most of the attempts at humor were glaringly unfunny, and the ATM subplot was excruciating, but there were enough positive messages to carry the day and make this a winner, definitely worth seeing.

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kandyman1028
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posted 09-20-2002 09:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kandyman1028   Click Here to Email kandyman1028     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by truheart:
I don't hear anyone calling a Jim Carrey or Adam Sandler movie a White-Trash comedy


I'll say it. Most Jim Carrey movies, and ALL Adam Sandler movies (ugh) are white-trash comedies, really painful to watch.

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utzworld
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posted 09-24-2002 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for utzworld   Click Here to Email utzworld     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Crabs In A Barrel Syndrome strikes again...

http://www.msnbc.com/news/810251.asp

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cpeer
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posted 09-24-2002 11:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpeer   Click Here to Email cpeer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by utzworld:
Crabs In A Barrel Syndrome strikes again...

I find this really funny because at one point in Barbershop, one of the customers warns Eddie that he'd better not let Jesse Jackson hear his remarks. And Eddie says "F*** Jesse Jackson!". Almost seems like they were expecting this.

I really, really liked Barbershop and I especially liked Cedric's Eddie. This movie is the prime example of the "We are not a monolith" attitude. Give the world 10 shows a year like this and you might really see some interacial dialog. The hardcore biggots/buttheads cannot be changed of course, but the majority of those who go along with them do so out of ignorance and fear.

Apparently, Mr. Jackson wants a monolith that agrees with him. What a shame.

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utzworld
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posted 09-25-2002 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for utzworld   Click Here to Email utzworld     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by utzworld:
Crabs In A Barrel Syndrome strikes again...

http://www.msnbc.com/news/810251.asp


My Two Cents:

Jesse really does need to shut the hell up. The only reason why he's bitching is because of the infamous line...which I STRONGLY agree with. Hell, that line got the biggest laugh in the whole theatre.

Riddle me this...why did he wait till the SECOND WEEKEND to pitch a bitch??? Hmmmm...

Jesse ain't nothin' but a bullshit artist. He needs to keep his mouth shut and focus on those damn child support payments!


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MR. CHEESEHEAD HATH SPOKEN!!!

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cpeer
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posted 09-26-2002 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpeer   Click Here to Email cpeer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by utzworld:
My Two Cents:
Riddle me this...why did he wait till the SECOND WEEKEND to pitch a bitch??? Hmmmm...

Suggested Answers: (Select one)
(A) Because the box office numbers are so high that he figured there might be money in it for him if he complained?
(B) Because the box office numbers are so high that he figured white people might be watching this movie too and he doesn't want white people to know he doesn't speak for everybody?
(C) Because the box office numbers are so high that he figured a whole lot of people are laughing at him publicly and his ego is so big he can't stand that?
(D) All of the above?

I'm more picky than you about cheese movies and I may rag on you about it, but you get no argument from me on this one Chris.

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utzworld
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posted 09-26-2002 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for utzworld   Click Here to Email utzworld     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cpeer:
Suggested Answers: (Select one)
(A) Because the box office numbers are so high that he figured there might be money in it for him if he complained?
(B) Because the box office numbers are so high that he figured white people might be watching this movie too and he doesn't want white people to know he doesn't speak for everybody?
(C) Because the box office numbers are so high that he figured a whole lot of people are laughing at him publicly and his ego is so big he can't stand that?
(D) All of the above?

I'm more picky than you about cheese movies and I may rag on you about it, but you get no argument from me on this one Chris.


All of the above...with a major emphasis on (A) and (C). The Rosa/MLK thing is a smokescreen. THE LINE is undoubtedly what he's pissed off about the most.

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truheart
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posted 09-28-2002 02:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for truheart   Click Here to Email truheart     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is a little sarcastic- but damnnn! Utz, do you really think that Jesse is wrong? It's the first time I really agree with the crab in the barrel syndrome. I really think that there are a hell of alot of subjects he could talk about, that are more important than this one.

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cpeer
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posted 09-28-2002 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpeer   Click Here to Email cpeer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by truheart:
I really think that there are a hell of alot of subjects he could talk about, that are more important than this one.

I compleatly agree.But I like to give people the benefit of the doubt. So, let's for the moment assume that JJ has decided to take on Hollywood for offensive films.

Has he complained about Booty Call type movies? How aboutGansta's Lined in Chalk in the Hood type movies? Any complaints from him there? Any complaints about the Brotha Rule??

He claims he's offended about the infidelity comments made about MLK. Spike Lee made infidelity comments about MLK in Malcom X. Did JJ complain then?

I think this is personal.

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